Comments on: The blogger CoC http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/2007/04/10/the-blogger-coc/ Unscientific and ultimately destructive. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:06:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: saythings http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/2007/04/10/the-blogger-coc/comment-page-1/#comment-4472 saythings Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:43:53 +0000 http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/?p=715#comment-4472 Or "disemvowelling"? I agree with Cairn though; The people who are already "self-policing" aren't the ones that are the problem. Not to be too black and white about it, but people generally either have social responsibility or they don't. Some CoC isn't going to change that. Reminds me of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority" rel="nofollow">CCA</a> Or “disemvowelling”?

I agree with Cairn though; The people who are already “self-policing” aren’t the ones that are the problem.
Not to be too black and white about it, but people generally either have social responsibility or they don’t. Some CoC isn’t going to change that.

Reminds me of the CCA

]]> By: echomikeromeo http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/2007/04/10/the-blogger-coc/comment-page-1/#comment-4444 echomikeromeo Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:09:44 +0000 http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/?p=715#comment-4444 Isn't it amazing how the phrase "nublet fanboys" didn't exist 10 years ago? Isn’t it amazing how the phrase “nublet fanboys” didn’t exist 10 years ago?

]]> By: Cairnarvon http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/2007/04/10/the-blogger-coc/comment-page-1/#comment-4432 Cairnarvon Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:28:46 +0000 http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/?p=715#comment-4432 Don't ever visit 4chan, it will destroy your world~ Low-quality photoshops are about as hard to make as random threats. She freaked out over a random harmless troll. I get worse hate mail than that, and barely anyone reads my blog. Maybe she just doesn't understand the internet, but still. She seems to expect the benefits of celebrity without any of the downsides. If you intend to be a public person, especially on the internet, you have to develop a reasonably thick skin, and an ability to recognise a 14-year-old with too much free time for what it is. If it were just O'Reilly, I'm pretty sure this code of conduct would stop at him (and maybe a handful of other people; there are a bunch who have already adopted it), but Jimbo Wales is so desperate to be a social engineer, and he has so many nublet fanboys, that I really don't see this just dying quietly. The me-too mentality is already pretty strong in the blogosphere, and it seems to increase exponentially as you increase Wikipedia and its related "projects". Don’t ever visit 4chan, it will destroy your world~
Low-quality photoshops are about as hard to make as random threats. She freaked out over a random harmless troll. I get worse hate mail than that, and barely anyone reads my blog.
Maybe she just doesn’t understand the internet, but still. She seems to expect the benefits of celebrity without any of the downsides. If you intend to be a public person, especially on the internet, you have to develop a reasonably thick skin, and an ability to recognise a 14-year-old with too much free time for what it is.

If it were just O’Reilly, I’m pretty sure this code of conduct would stop at him (and maybe a handful of other people; there are a bunch who have already adopted it), but Jimbo Wales is so desperate to be a social engineer, and he has so many nublet fanboys, that I really don’t see this just dying quietly.
The me-too mentality is already pretty strong in the blogosphere, and it seems to increase exponentially as you increase Wikipedia and its related “projects”.

]]> By: taz http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/2007/04/10/the-blogger-coc/comment-page-1/#comment-4431 taz Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:18:14 +0000 http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/?p=715#comment-4431 Why do you feel she was overreacting? Anonymous comments are easy to ignore, but I think it is genuinely disturbing when someone goes to the extra length of making gross photo manips. I can see why refusing to leave her house might be melodramatic, but shutting down her blog and refusing to go to a blogging/tech conference seem fairly reasonable to me. I also can't readily agree with you that a Blogging Code of Conduct is harmful. I don't see it becoming a marker of credibility, but just another way for bloggers to denote their desire to control and be responsible what goes on at their blog -- or to denote that they don't care, if they use that 'free for all' badge. Interesting things to think about. Why do you feel she was overreacting? Anonymous comments are easy to ignore, but I think it is genuinely disturbing when someone goes to the extra length of making gross photo manips. I can see why refusing to leave her house might be melodramatic, but shutting down her blog and refusing to go to a blogging/tech conference seem fairly reasonable to me.

I also can’t readily agree with you that a Blogging Code of Conduct is harmful. I don’t see it becoming a marker of credibility, but just another way for bloggers to denote their desire to control and be responsible what goes on at their blog — or to denote that they don’t care, if they use that ‘free for all’ badge.

Interesting things to think about.

]]> By: echomikeromeo http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/2007/04/10/the-blogger-coc/comment-page-1/#comment-4424 echomikeromeo Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:30:40 +0000 http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/?p=715#comment-4424 Some of it - such as the "no anonymous comments" - seems to be against the general spirit of the internet. One of the reasons it's so wonderful is that it <i>does</i> allow one to express oneself without an identity. Some of it – such as the “no anonymous comments” – seems to be against the general spirit of the internet. One of the reasons it’s so wonderful is that it does allow one to express oneself without an identity.

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