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	<title>Comments on: Dawkins on race</title>
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	<description>Unscientific and ultimately destructive.</description>
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		<title>By: Cairnarvon</title>
		<link>http://cairnarvon.rotahall.org/2009/01/26/dawkins-on-race/comment-page-1/#comment-41040</link>
		<dc:creator>Cairnarvon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You’re right that the black-white IQ gap grows as children age, but this is easily explained by the fact that intelligence becomes more heritable as one gets older.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ahaha oh wow.

&lt;blockquote&gt;See the Minnesotta transracial adoption study for more information:&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not that one again. It&#039;s been debunked over and over again. Try &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.be/books?id=UVLaKci3uOIC&amp;pg=PA333&amp;lpg=PA333&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=Vs07ViQoZ0&amp;sig=-clf_MUXx1WDuR6eomTjlICJKMQ&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=ubmISv-CCcqF-QbE-rC7CQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=6#v=onepage&amp;f=false&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; for just one refuting.

&lt;blockquote&gt;You sound like a creationist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re the one parroting canards, mate.

(I know I promised you some references more credible than &lt;i&gt;The Bell Curve&lt;/i&gt;, but I&#039;ve been too busy to go back to those books lately, and frankly, they&#039;re all over the internet if you&#039;re that interested. If you steer clear of both Gould and Herrnstein you should be fine.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You’re right that the black-white IQ gap grows as children age, but this is easily explained by the fact that intelligence becomes more heritable as one gets older.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ahaha oh wow.</p>
<blockquote><p>See the Minnesotta transracial adoption study for more information:</p></blockquote>
<p>Not that one again. It&#8217;s been debunked over and over again. Try <a href="http://books.google.be/books?id=UVLaKci3uOIC&#038;pg=PA333&#038;lpg=PA333&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=Vs07ViQoZ0&#038;sig=-clf_MUXx1WDuR6eomTjlICJKMQ&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=ubmISv-CCcqF-QbE-rC7CQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=6#v=onepage&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow">this</a> for just one refuting.</p>
<blockquote><p>You sound like a creationist.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re the one parroting canards, mate.</p>
<p>(I know I promised you some references more credible than <i>The Bell Curve</i>, but I&#8217;ve been too busy to go back to those books lately, and frankly, they&#8217;re all over the internet if you&#8217;re that interested. If you steer clear of both Gould and Herrnstein you should be fine.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s true, though, that it’s not just socio-economics, but also cultural, as evidenced by the fact that black kids doing as well on tests as white kids in grade 1 tend to do much worse than those same kids by grade 6, at least in the US. There’s a strong anti-intellectual streak to American black culture, which naturally translates to lower average IQ scores. There’s more to “class” than a parent’s income.&quot;


You&#039;re right that the black-white IQ gap grows as children age, but this is easily explained by the fact that intelligence becomes more heritable as one gets older. See the Minnesotta transracial adoption study for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

And please do some more research on race and intelligence before making authoritative claims, such as that the gap is entirely environmental. You sound like a creationist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s true, though, that it’s not just socio-economics, but also cultural, as evidenced by the fact that black kids doing as well on tests as white kids in grade 1 tend to do much worse than those same kids by grade 6, at least in the US. There’s a strong anti-intellectual streak to American black culture, which naturally translates to lower average IQ scores. There’s more to “class” than a parent’s income.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that the black-white IQ gap grows as children age, but this is easily explained by the fact that intelligence becomes more heritable as one gets older. See the Minnesotta transracial adoption study for more information: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study</a></p>
<p>And please do some more research on race and intelligence before making authoritative claims, such as that the gap is entirely environmental. You sound like a creationist.</p>
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		<title>By: Cairnarvon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cairnarvon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TBC-BW-IQ-SES-withDiff.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;That graph&lt;/a&gt; is based on data from &lt;i&gt;The Bell Curve&lt;/i&gt;, so it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;highly&lt;/i&gt; suspect. (Gould being profoundly wrong in his reply to &lt;i&gt;TBC&lt;/i&gt; doesn&#039;t mean &lt;i&gt;TBC&lt;/i&gt; was right.)
Even if it weren&#039;t, there&#039;s nothing to suggest that would be explained by &quot;regression to the mean&quot;.

It&#039;s true, though, that it&#039;s not just socio-economics, but also cultural, as evidenced by the fact that black kids doing as well on tests as white kids in grade 1 tend to do much worse than those same kids by grade 6, at least in the US. There&#039;s a strong anti-intellectual streak to American black culture, which naturally translates to lower average IQ scores. There&#039;s more to &quot;class&quot; than a parent&#039;s income.
If anything, this would be a better candidate to explain your putative &lt;i&gt;growing&lt;/i&gt; difference, but that&#039;s just not there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TBC-BW-IQ-SES-withDiff.png" rel="nofollow">That graph</a> is based on data from <i>The Bell Curve</i>, so it&#8217;s <i>highly</i> suspect. (Gould being profoundly wrong in his reply to <i>TBC</i> doesn&#8217;t mean <i>TBC</i> was right.)<br />
Even if it weren&#8217;t, there&#8217;s nothing to suggest that would be explained by &#8220;regression to the mean&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, though, that it&#8217;s not just socio-economics, but also cultural, as evidenced by the fact that black kids doing as well on tests as white kids in grade 1 tend to do much worse than those same kids by grade 6, at least in the US. There&#8217;s a strong anti-intellectual streak to American black culture, which naturally translates to lower average IQ scores. There&#8217;s more to &#8220;class&#8221; than a parent&#8217;s income.<br />
If anything, this would be a better candidate to explain your putative <i>growing</i> difference, but that&#8217;s just not there.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s true that blacks on average have a lower IQ than whites in the US, but that difference disappears once you adjust for class.&quot;

That&#039;s an utter lie. There is simply no evidence that the black-white IQ gap disappears when income is controlled. In fact, the gap grows as income grows, a phenomenon explained by regression towards the mean.

Look at Wikipedia&#039;s entry on Race and Intelligence and examine the graphs: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s true that blacks on average have a lower IQ than whites in the US, but that difference disappears once you adjust for class.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an utter lie. There is simply no evidence that the black-white IQ gap disappears when income is controlled. In fact, the gap grows as income grows, a phenomenon explained by regression towards the mean.</p>
<p>Look at Wikipedia&#8217;s entry on Race and Intelligence and examine the graphs:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence</a></p>
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		<title>By: GreatBritain<span class="postertrip">!lM51PoudCg</span></title>
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		<dc:creator>GreatBritain<span class="postertrip">!lM51PoudCg</span></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Dawkins is so hot
*fap fap fap fap*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Dawkins is so hot<br />
*fap fap fap fap*</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-racism meme fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anti-racism meme fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RACISM DETECTED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RACISM DETECTED</p>
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		<title>By: Cairnarvon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cairnarvon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOLY FUCK YOUR TRIPCODE IS AWESOME</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOLY FUCK YOUR TRIPCODE IS AWESOME</p>
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		<title>By: steve<span class="postertrip">!SteVeSeXoo</span></title>
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		<dc:creator>steve<span class="postertrip">!SteVeSeXoo</span></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TEST</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TEST</p>
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